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July 29th, 2009

Risk rating for fatties?

Posted by Dana Blankenhorn @ 7:36 am

Categories: Consumer Information, Finance, General, Government, U.S., Wellness

Tags: Health Insurance, Risk, Health Care, Wellness Program, Vertical Industries, Benefits, Healthcare, Human Resources, Dana Blankenhorn

Yesterday’s piece on obesity drew a lot of commenters who had an excellent point.

Denying coverage based on your lifestyle is a lot like the current industry mania about “pre-existing conditions” that began the reform debate.

So how about this.

Smokers already pay more for health insurance. This smoker’s differential can amount to up to $50/month.

And this is on top of all the other trips society has for tobaccoholics, from smoking pens in airports to the nasty looks of people like me trying to get out of the way of your smoke trail.

When this first became popular, in 2006, the CDC was estimating smoking cost $92 billion per year in lost productivity and $75.5 billion in direct health care costs.

That’s awfully close to the $147 billion cost for obesity, another CDC estimate.

Scientists can measure the cost of your lifestyle choices. Actuaries can build these risks into rates. This is where the health insurance industry is moving, toward the collection of more data on people who aren’t sick, evaluation of lifestyle risks, help in minimizing those risks, and penalties for those who ignore the advice.

This is not a question of who pays. The concept is, in fact, moving ahead faster among private health insurers, who have to answer to employers paying your premiums, than it is in government programs.

But at the heart of the savings President Obama promises from health reform is the extension of this regime to everyone. Best practices are driven by data. Wellness programs are driven by data. And the whole idea of that data is to check your compliance with medical advice, to change your lifestyle.

Many of the comments yesterday were on point. But many others weren’t. Commenters argued against public health programs generally, charging it was a “taking” from them they resented.

So when a private company charges you more for insurance because you’re obese, or because its data indicates you don’t comply with your doctor’s orders regarding diet, exercise, and wellness, is that a taking? Sure feels like it to me, and it’s those who don’t get charged extra whom I feel are doing the taking.

In suggesting that certain lifestyles be excluded from coverage due to their cost, I obviously struck a nerve. But there is no difference, in fact, between government refusing care based on your lifestyle and a private insurer raising its rates through the roof on you for the same reason.

Big brother and little brother have the same agenda, which is making sure you do what they say.

Or else.  Be as much of a jerk as you want. Just not with my money.

Dana BlankenhornDana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist since 1978, and has covered technology since 1982. He launched the Interactive Age Daily, the first daily coverage of the Internet to launch with a magazine, in September 1994. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Posted by: Cardhu Posted on: 10/30/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
But where are the exceptions?  Ken_z | 07/29/09
It didn't fly  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/29/09
Is that why Cheney shot him? (NT)  Ken_z | 07/29/09
I still think..  pdskep | 07/29/09
But...  rapson | 07/29/09
Here is why...  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/29/09
You are joking, right?  cornpie | 07/30/09
Absolutely right!  maggietoo9 | 08/02/09
And obesity is mostly a choice.  T-Rexx | 07/29/09
I agree.  svera@... | 07/30/09
Well said...  maggietoo9 | 08/02/09
Please Provide Documented Evidence  Cardhu | 08/03/09
You Should Probably Figure Out How Google Works  Onideus_Mad_Hatter | 08/25/09
Cut The Sarcasm And Just Provide The References  Cardhu | 10/30/09
Spoken As Someone Uninformed About Medicine  Cardhu | 07/30/09
Another Side Too  Onideus_Mad_Hatter | 07/31/09
A Good Point  Cardhu | 08/01/09
Price Signal Information Is Necessary  Ad Astra | 07/29/09
You lost that argument  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/29/09
Ah - rather than address the issue, dismiss it as ideology!  Ad Astra | 07/29/09
No one is getting kicked out  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/29/09
See My Previous Post  Cardhu | 07/30/09
"Lost argument"?  JTF243@... | 07/30/09
Doesn't that kill Medicare & Cancer Patients?  Ken_z | 07/29/09
We are the ONLY nation....  maggietoo9 | 08/02/09
Please Support Your Assertions  Cardhu | 08/03/09
But I thought...  rapson | 07/29/09
I'm saying it doesn't matter who pays  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/29/09
Everyone Must Pay  Cardhu | 08/01/09
RE: Risk rating for fatties?  ccrasher | 07/29/09
Someone wants a pony  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/29/09
You Are Not Providing Workable Solutions  Cardhu | 07/31/09
RE: Risk rating for fatties?  Richard B | 07/29/09
Excuse me?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/29/09
Excuse Me  ccrasher | 07/29/09
Oh Brother  Cardhu | 07/30/09
I believe...  rapson | 07/30/09
Aha!  Cardhu | 07/30/09
Alternative plan  zmud | 07/29/09
Some Cautions  Cardhu | 07/30/09
"Fatties" is offensive  johndoe445566 | 07/30/09
Derogatory Terms Are The First Step  Cardhu | 07/30/09
risk ratings and public health  ca1ic0cat | 07/30/09
It Is Not Simple  Cardhu | 07/30/09
RE: Risk rating for fatties?  spreng | 07/30/09
RE: Risk rating for fatties?  midgarddragon@... | 07/30/09
RE: Risk rating for fatties?  JTF243@... | 07/30/09
RE: Risk rating for fatties?  maggietoo9 | 08/02/09
RE: Risk rating for fatties?  maggietoo9 | 08/02/09
You Are Partly Blaming Physicians  Cardhu | 08/03/09
Charge More for Obese and Diabetic...  ccrasher | 08/05/09
No, It Isn't "Fair"  Cardhu | 08/06/09

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