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October 20th, 2009

No such thing as a free school lunch

Posted by Dana Blankenhorn @ 5:53 am

Categories: Ethics, General, Government, Wellness

Tags: Nutrition, School Lunch, Dana Blankenhorn

Lunch ladies say it’s time to get serious.

School lunches need to get better, they argue. They need to be designed with proper nutrition in mind. The right amount of calories, more fruits and vegetables. Proper nutrition for kids will cut their disease rates as adults.

Proper school lunches are about the prevention of disease, and about economic competitiveness in the long run. So argue the lunch ladies.

But that’s not how the system works. (Picture from Wikipedia.)

In practice school lunches are designed around budgets. Parents around the country are having trouble paying even the pittance most school lunches cost. Even using government surplus fats, carbs and proteins, there’s a growing gap between what lunches cost and what we pay for them.

Yes, we’re talking about your pocketbook.

School lunches come out of school budgets. Public schools are part of what made America great and they’re under threat from all sides.

For the sake of nutrition, or just to get by, lunch ladies want taxpayers to fork over more dough. The health of our kids is at stake, they say. As the twig is bent the tree is inclined, and kids who don’t eat right now will become overweight and stupid in later life, unable to provide the economic oomph needed to get baby boomers through retirement.

Some will doubtless say screw it. Screw the lunch ladies, screw the public schools, screw the kids. Let them get jobs and make their own way. It’s their choice. Freedom.

But that’s not the American way.

It was the United States that pioneered free, universal public education. All those Horace Mann Elementary Schools you see by the roadsides were named for a real person. That’s his picture at the top of this post.

School lunches may be the canary in the coal mine of a larger problem, but it’s one that is not going away. How we deal with it will determine how we deal with the larger crisis.

That larger crisis, in a word, is wellness. And that crisis is fueled by a contest of values, the long-term values of Horace Mann and the short-term values of the recent past.

You will see that contest played out in our attitude toward school lunches. My guess is this will result in an interesting talkback thread.

Dana BlankenhornDana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist since 1978, and has covered technology since 1982. He launched the Interactive Age Daily, the first daily coverage of the Internet to launch with a magazine, in September 1994. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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The FDA recommendations may have changed but mostly in the serving sizes. Instead of one serving that is one cup now they need two half cup servings. Not really a change.

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Hmmm..  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
haa come one you can do it  Quebec-french | 10/20/09
I've come...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
The really sad thing is  James T. Kirk | 10/20/09
No, no, no. You have it all wrong  frgough | 10/20/09
ok but what do you do to solve the problem  Quebec-french | 10/20/09
Stop the nanny state!  stano360 | 10/21/09
ignorant and lazy?  goff256 | 10/21/09
I feel really sad for those children...  lambep@... | 10/20/09
Where the money goes  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
Solution:  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/21/09
It doesn't  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
Utter nonsense!  stano360 | 10/21/09
Nothing wrong with private schools.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/21/09
And here you see, folks, the sinister evil  frgough | 10/20/09
And there we have it  Quebec-french | 10/20/09
no reasonable solution  David A. Pimentel | 10/20/09
The USA voted for change.  mjolnar@... | 10/20/09
It tastes like that  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
"balanced" "fair reporting" lol!  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
So, you finally admit it's not about what's good for the people...  adornoe@... | 10/20/09
Hi-5  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
More than that  stano360 | 10/21/09
give it to banks and Exxon, that the Am. way  koekayttaja | 10/21/09
Everything is a crisis with you liberals!  ShadeTree | 10/20/09
How dare they want  goff256 | 10/20/09
Who says conservatives don't want those same things.  ShadeTree | 10/22/09
The thing that I have heard from most conservatives is  goff256 | 10/24/09
Caterpiller was close to the truth.  recurvebowyer | 10/20/09
we shoulld stop free lunches and free buses for school  Linux Geek | 10/20/09
Maybe LG should pay for the air ...  PeopleFirst | 10/20/09
That's one vote for President Polk  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
RE: No such thing as a free school lunch  Morphyous | 10/20/09
We are spending faster now than before.  mjolnar@... | 10/20/09
Huh?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
Dana, the guy is right. What's your issue man.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Welcome Trolls  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
ok sensitive subject (nt)  Quebec-french | 10/20/09
Wait wait wait...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
p.s.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Ha please CEC  Quebec-french | 10/20/09
Ahhh saving my ammo...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Free education free lunch.  recurvebowyer | 10/20/09
Not adding free lunch can do the same  goff256 | 10/20/09
Is our hungry kids learning?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
Solution:  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Solution: I want a pony  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
Oops - Dana and his ADD temper happy  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Pure garbage, Dana...  adornoe@... | 10/21/09
Solution: you'll get your pony.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/21/09
Why the obsession with trolls?  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
Now that's some real trolling...  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
I learned it from watching you  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
Don't expect Dana to admit that. He has ADD temper.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
It's cool to make fun of mental disorders  goff256 | 10/20/09
If you say so.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Obviously you think so  goff256 | 10/20/09
That's your opinion.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
You've posted your point about his ADD  goff256 | 10/20/09
You should ask Dana  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
Hint: the point of writing is to make a point.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
So, CEC  goff256 | 10/20/09
You can't let go eh? LOL!  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Only because you didn't respond.  goff256 | 10/20/09
And still he can't let go...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Are you telling me he really has ADD?  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
Dana's own website: "I have ADD"  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
CEC, reread that. "I have an ADD temper" he says  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
You're right.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Just for reference  goff256 | 10/20/09
ADD is a difference, not a disorder  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/21/09
That night of sleep was good...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/21/09
If the mental disorder is being a socialist or a communist...  adornoe@... | 10/21/09
Aren't you clever  goff256 | 10/21/09
goff256: Yes, I'm clever, but more importantly, I'm right.  adornoe@... | 10/21/09
Repeating  goff256 | 10/21/09
goff256; There's nobody more blind than he that refuses to see...  adornoe@... | 10/21/09
But it feels good  cmcfarling | 10/21/09
Just so I'll know  goff256 | 10/21/09
Yea, doubtful he could bring himself to do that  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
Oddly enough  goff256 | 10/20/09
Ok, so you agree then. Great  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
cmc  goff256 | 10/20/09
Some try  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
What would they complain about?  goff256 | 10/21/09
Dana I dare you to admit it  cmcfarling | 10/21/09
Tolerance in action  cmcfarling | 10/21/09
Who have I called a troll?  goff256 | 10/21/09
Actually, you are the troll Dana, by your own definition.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
I don't mind being called a "troll", but you're still a communist...  adornoe@... | 10/21/09
Yep, McCarthy DID teach you well  goff256 | 10/21/09
The truth is very self evident, and it's unrelated to McCarthy...  adornoe@... | 10/21/09
Since you brought up McCarthy...  adornoe@... | 10/21/09
He was wrong about  goff256 | 10/21/09
goff256: Your ignorance is very evident...  adornoe@... | 10/21/09
So... you're gonna continue to talk out of your ass?  goff256 | 10/21/09
Even when I "speak out of my ass", I make more sense than you...  adornoe@... | 10/22/09
We have drug testing at work.  mjolnar@... | 10/20/09
huh?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
Hey Dana - book tip for you:  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/21/09
You are part of the worst of non-thinking liberals...  adornoe@... | 10/21/09
Study history  goff256 | 10/21/09
Different times....  adornoe@... | 10/21/09
Major tax cuts happened in 1964  goff256 | 10/21/09
Looks like adornoe has studied his history  cmcfarling | 10/21/09
Ah, a proponent of trickle down, I see?  goff256 | 10/21/09
What igorant blather!  stano360 | 10/21/09
Me pay for your kids food?  Bill_SixPack | 10/20/09
But they are. That's the deal  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
Yes, but the pre-amble to the constitution says  mjolnar@... | 10/20/09
You just flunked the citizenship test  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
I'd be on your side Dana...  JohnMcGrew@... | 10/20/09
That's what some got  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
What "limited resources"?  JohnMcGrew@... | 10/20/09
Ignorance?  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
CEC  goff256 | 10/20/09
JM  goff256 | 10/20/09
Not at all Goff.  JohnMcGrew@... | 10/20/09
JM  goff256 | 10/20/09
That much is true, Goff...  JohnMcGrew@... | 10/21/09
The real thing that needs to happen  goff256 | 10/21/09
Well, just hang on a little longer then...  JohnMcGrew@... | 10/21/09
"willful ignorance"?  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/21/09
Interesting statement you made there, Dana:  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Liberals and their rights destroying ability!  goff256 | 10/20/09
You lost me.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
You posted about liberals taking rights away  goff256 | 10/20/09
Again, you lost me.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Well we don't  stano360 | 10/21/09
You're reasoning is wrong, Dana.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Woah, big leap in logic there  goff256 | 10/20/09
Who pays for the state?  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
And by paying for it  goff256 | 10/20/09
Again, a lot of assertions...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
You haven't answered anything  goff256 | 10/20/09
Yes I did, twice. You didn't understand.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Not true  stano360 | 10/21/09
Wow... just wow.  goff256 | 10/21/09
Free Lunch Blog on ZDNet?  tiredpolitico | 10/20/09
I was interested in how far "no" goes  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
I goes far enough for me to see about  mjolnar@... | 10/20/09
It's really simple, Dana  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
I find this argument funny  goff256 | 10/20/09
No it's not funny.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
It isn't funny to you  goff256 | 10/20/09
Hmmm  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
The generation of me is going strong  goff256 | 10/20/09
Actually that's your interpretation.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
You have been saying  goff256 | 10/20/09
Simple  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
A base my argument off of refuting yours  goff256 | 10/20/09
"Greatest Country"? lol!  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
We are!  goff256 | 10/20/09
That shows me you haven't been around...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Aye, I haven't seen as much of the world as I would have wanted  goff256 | 10/20/09
yeah travelling is expensive  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
I hope to travel  goff256 | 10/20/09
Ahh a military man! good for you  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
That would be great  goff256 | 10/21/09
I find it sad  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
Dana, you're trolling.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Allow me to promote the American Spirit  goff256 | 10/20/09
Allowed...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Do you even understand why I posted that?  goff256 | 10/20/09
Go Galt  sboverie@... | 10/20/09
Not Part of Our School Budget  MichP | 10/20/09
But you just said it does  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
RE: No such thing as a free school lunch  wayoutinva | 10/20/09
Food is nutrition education  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
"The lunch period isn't recess"  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/21/09
All ahead full & damn the consequences  mindnova | 10/20/09
Hot pretzel for lunch?  StellarView | 10/20/09
You're right  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/09
2 Alternatives:  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Makes sense  goff256 | 10/20/09
Take a breath...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Dana?  goff256 | 10/20/09
You and me both  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
Makes sense, I guess  goff256 | 10/20/09
Since CBS bought ZDNet...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
Yea, never heard of him  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
BTW CEC...  cmcfarling | 10/20/09
@cmc  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
RE: No such thing as a free school lunch  3rdtimer | 10/20/09
Hear hear.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/20/09
A different perspective  gypsiez | 11/03/09
You forgot one thing  goff256 | 10/21/09
To sum this whole talkback up:  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/21/09
To sum this whole talkback up  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/23/09
look after your own fecking kids  katrillionaire@... | 10/23/09
Why Horace Mann is there  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/26/09
That's why blogs need a five-second delay  3dguru | 10/24/09
That is why the alarm was raised  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/26/09
Speaking of FDA recommendations  gypsiez | 11/03/09

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