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November 2nd, 2009

Don't cry for me Joe Lieberman

Posted by Dana Blankenhorn @ 7:09 am

Categories: Curioisities, Finance, General, Government, U.S.

Tags: Democrat, Lieberman Software Corp, Joe Lieberman, Option, Liberals, Leadership, Vertical Industries, Benefits, Healthcare, Healthcare Reform

The good news on health care reform today is the movie is nearly over.

Democrats are facing up to the choice that faced them from the start of the debate. They can either tell their grassroots to suck on this and pass a bill moderates within both parties will accept, one without a public option, or they can roll their opponents in a parliamentary floor fight.

The question was put by Sen. Joe Lieberman, who now says he will vote with Republicans to filibuster any bill with a public option in it. The leadership bill includes a public option, but Lieberman plus a united Republican caucus mean that bill can’t come up for a vote.

No reform is better than a public option, he told CBS’ Face the Nation.

House Democrats, meanwhile, are pushing ahead with a bill that includes the public option, plus new regulatory authority for the Federal Trade Commission over health insurers. This despite the fact the public option they have crafted would only get a 2% market share, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Liberals are calling for Lieberman’s political head on a platter. Matt Osborne of The Huffington Post says including the public option makes the leadership bill a budget measure eligible for reconciliation, so a filibuster would be out of order. Markos “Kos” Moulitsas notes Lieberman was for ending filibusters as a freshman Senator.

Of course tossing aside Lieberman might leave moderates in both camps without a party at all. Could we have an American version of England’s Liberal Democrats come out of this?

Stay tuned. I think a dance number is coming up.

Dana BlankenhornDana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist since 1978, and has covered technology since 1982. He launched the Interactive Age Daily, the first daily coverage of the Internet to launch with a magazine, in September 1994. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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We already do...
and we have been for a very long time. And of course it is not the best way to go. I never siad that there shouldn't be changes. All I said was lets keep our eye on the prize and let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. ... (Read the rest)
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Interesting...  Fark | 11/02/09
Maybe  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
I agree - they have to pass something...  Fark | 11/02/09
MAObama = Jimmy Carter 2.0  LBiege | 11/02/09
Weimarized?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
You didn't get the joke, Dana  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
If the elections tomorrow ....  ShadeTree | 11/02/09
They don't matter  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Wrong on both counts!  ShadeTree | 11/02/09
You've said the magic words - 'deficit spending'...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
the patriots are rising against the socialist bill  Linux Geek | 11/02/09
Real Americans?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Real Americans do NOT kneel for Saudi king. Obama did.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
The bushes and the Saudi royalty were best friends  Metronome49 | 11/02/09
Bush's friendship with Saudi king was questionable indeed  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
Real American = American with American values  Linux Geek | 11/02/09
American Values = your values?  Metronome49 | 11/02/09
Not everything is relative.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
End Socialism Now!  rag@... | 11/02/09
Uh, huh  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Try again, lib boy  rag@... | 11/02/09
Marxist mentors?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
There you go again, Dana.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
Lashing out?  nothingness | 11/02/09
Yes, lashing out.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
Reply to CounterEthicsCommissioner...  rshores | 11/02/09
The GST is fine.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
The problem is the Bill ....  ShadeTree | 11/02/09
RE: Don't cry for me Joe Lieberman  rkmoray | 11/02/09
There are many Americas  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Dana rolls out the race card  itpro_z | 11/02/09
4th option...  Fark | 11/02/09
Supreme Court  itpro_z | 11/02/09
Please! You're kidding me!  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Banana republic?  itpro_z | 11/02/09
It is unConstitutional to deploy ....  ShadeTree | 11/02/09
So the 55 mph limit is unconstitutional?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Dana, he did not mention civil war at all. You did.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
So the 55 mph limit is unconstitutional?  Fark | 11/02/09
Dana, you presume way to much.  ShadeTree | 11/02/09
Good job Fark & Shadetree.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
Yes, Dana, in a sense the 55 MPH speed limit is unconstitutional  itpro_z | 11/02/09
@ itpro_z  privatejarhead | 11/02/09
Wrong  itpro_z | 11/02/09
hmm  privatejarhead | 11/02/09
Disagree  itpro_z | 11/02/09
You say you want a revolution?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
"We're playing the 1969 Game".  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
In a word, no  itpro_z | 11/02/09
Ouch! That will hurt Dana....  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
Race and Politics...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
This may be your most idiotic post ever....  ShadeTree | 11/02/09
It was my respondent's  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
No, you wrote what you wrote Dana.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
No, you have to take credit for what you posted.  ShadeTree | 11/02/09
Wow, what will you post next?  GuidingLight | 11/02/09
I'm not a Republican any more  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Just like the libs did to BUSH?  Fark | 11/02/09
Pot & Kettle indeed.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
ouch that one hurt  Quebec-french | 11/02/09
We're just bandying words here  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
That's why you feel the need to respond...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
A courageous man, Joe Lieberman.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
A courageous woman, Dede Scozzafavva  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Same goes for her, Dana. My respect for her.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
She is a Democrat in Republican garb.  ShadeTree | 11/02/09
Ah that explains it...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
There's always a Conservative  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Actually there ia a center right majority.  ShadeTree | 11/02/09
Or not  itpro_z | 11/02/09
RE: Don't cry for me Joe Lieberman  FJRC | 11/02/09
oops...  FJRC | 11/02/09
Emergency Room  Metronome49 | 11/02/09
If its your money or your life - choose wisely.  Fark | 11/02/09
So I assume you're now going to blame  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
Which is exactly what this healthcare ....  ShadeTree | 11/02/09
Lots of respondents don't want the ERs to serve  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
"Pay for it". Now you're making sense Dana.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
We already do...  FJRC | 11/03/09
Dana Blankenhorn you've got all the Lunies going crazy today happy  lightingrod | 11/02/09
It helps if you don't take it too seriously  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Take your own advice Dana. Otherwise you'll be ADD'ing again.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
The libs tried that before  itpro_z | 11/02/09
support from republicans and independents  Fark | 11/02/09
Seniority Happens  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
Joe is what he is.  itpro_z | 11/02/09
If Democrats can't pass a bill they deserve to lose  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
I'm not a Republican these days  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
I have become a RINO  itpro_z | 11/02/09
Dana thinks Obama is a REAL American.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
Don't forget...  itpro_z | 11/02/09
Yes I do  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
That's 2 replies already Dana.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
The link  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
And there you go again, watch your ADD!  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
The Problem is the Bill  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 11/02/09
That's called democracy.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/02/09
Either you are delusional or misinformed.  ShadeTree | 11/02/09

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